Wednesday, August 2, 2023

The Rives (Ryves) of Damory Court

Blandford Forum

In 1929, James Rives Childs of Lynchburg, Virginia published Reliques of the Rives (Ryves): being historical and genealogical notes of the ancient family Ryves of County Dorset. This book has been a mainstay for Reeves researchers; however, only a small portion of today’s Reeves’ families descend from this lineage. This Reeves (Rives) family is represented in Group 8 of the Reeves DNA Project which currently has twenty-five members with matching Y-DNA verifying their kinship.

Gravestone Inscription of
Robert Ryves
The Dorset family of Ryves descends from one Robert Ryves of Blandford County, Dorset, England who is the first of the name in England of whom there is record. He was born about 1490 and died 11 February 1551. Although the old church of Blandford Forum was destroyed by fire in 1731, an officer in the King’s Army in 1644 made notes describing the tomb of Robert Ryves. His grandson, Sir John Ryves, born 1536, in a petition stated that King Henry VIII had granted the premises of the manor of Milton County, Dorset to Robert Ryves in 1546.

Many family history books written and published long before the current level of access to historical documents contain abundant misinformation because they relied heavily on proximity as a source of family connections. Childs spend a great amount of time researching Reliques and the book appears to be factual except for a few errors that seem based upon data submitted by Reeves descendants, not the work of Childs himself.

At the time in 1929 when Reliques of the Rives (Ryves) was first published, Childs believed that the immigrant ancestor of this family was William Ryves who was a titheable in Surry County, Virginia in 1684 and 1695. After much further scrutiny and mounting inferential evidence in support of the theory, in 1957, James Rives Childs wrote an amendment to the book which was published in the Virginia Magazine of History and Biography.

During the years after the first publiation, Childs felt that based upon his subsequent research along with additions and corrections shared by others that the immigrant was more likely Timothy Ryves, born 1625, the son of Timothy and Mary Ryves of Oxford. Timothy Rieve or Rives' estate was recorded in the Charles City County Order Book for 1687-1695. He was the father of George, Robert, John, and Timothy Rives, of Virginia.

Recently a Reeves colleague who descends from this family shared a link to this book that contains many interesting tidbits that may be of interest to other members of DNA Group 8 and others of the Rives or Reeves family descending from this lineage.

A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain By Bernard Burke · pub. 1900



3 comments:

  1. Thank you Beverly and the Reeves Project Team for devoting the past thirty years to the ancestral study of the Reeves/Reaves/Rives/Ryves/etc families. We are so lucky and thankful.

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    1. Thanks Donald. I love Reeves research, whether it's my own Reeves family or someone else's.

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  2. Hello Reeves family I'm researching the line from where my Grandmother Theresa Reeves came from. Her dad Otho was born in Stauton VA b1877. His father was John Newton b1852 whose dad Nathan b1824 in Augusta VA. now thomas b1799 and his dad William 1765 for which I have a DNA match through Ancestry. Then John Hayes Reeves, Thomas Sr., Henry Jr. 1665 and finally his dad Henry who is reported to be THE immigrant. Problem is that this Henry came from George "Georgius" Ryves
    born the same year as Henry in USVirginia. For which there is NO substantive record of him Immigrating and having a number of mentions in England and a death date.
    I would like to know who this mystery person. born in 1630 and appearing in 1637 in Virginia then granted land a few years later.
    If there is no lineage for Henry then who are the parents of William the DNA match?
    They all are from Old Rappahannock cty. Also the will of Henry clearly defines who are his children.
    Several 'trees' offer George and Elizabeth hussey as Henry's parents BUT there is a great deal of history showing they both stayed in England. Someone actually says that he was born in Rappahannock Virginia in 1630
    HELP and thank you if you have read through this.

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